Posts by Lady Zombie

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Got Some Encouraging "Bad" JW News

by Seeker4 in

an active jw was in touch with me yesterday, and we were catching up on a few things.

i found out that a witness i was friends with just daed.

he went to college and i'd always wondered if he has as much trouble with the jws as i thought he might.

Lady Zombie

Was it because of college, or did they drum up another reason?

I'm curious because this may lend support to a prediction I have.

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You know, I've yet to meet a JW who can explain this

by Lady Zombie in

i know that has probably been covered ad infinitum on jwd.

so...... if jehovah is omnipotent, then there is nothing he can't do and nothing he doesn't know.. and, according to jws (as well as most other religions), god is love.

therefore he had to have known, even before creating all of creation, what would happen.

Lady Zombie

Everyone is born atheist, or without a concept of god, if the term atheist bothers you.

The concept and belief in god must be taught.

So, if there is a god, especially one who wants constant praise and devotion, wouldn't a belief in god be hardwired into the brain much like a stimulus-response mechanism?

I'm hungry = I'll eat food

I'm cold = I must get warm

There is a god = I must worship

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Society to start laminating paper backed publications

by Lady Zombie in

at the wednesday night ministry school meeting, a letter from the society was read announcing that wtbts paperbacked publications will begin to be laminated.

according to the letter, this "will save approximately 2 million dollars per year," "lengthen the life of the publications," and "increase the attractiveness" of the publications.. so there's that.. .

also, will someone please explain to me why 85% of the congregation started smiling and nodding at this.. i sometimes think that headquarters could send the congregations boxes of turds and the jws would act like it was the best thing ever..

Lady Zombie

I can see this scenario happening.

Each congregation will purchase a PC and high quality printer. The society will make available .pdf files of study editions of the Watchtower and other 'Witness only' publications. Then the congregation prints out the publications on plain white paper and each witness will be given one copy. Anymore copies, each individual JW will be responsible for.

They will still publish books, Awake, brochures, and other publications used in the ministry. Still in full color, laminated, and "attractive" since these are what will be used for preaching but those will be strictly controled. Let's say a JW orders 6 of The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived books. They'll have to account where each of them went. Any un-placed publications will have to be returned to the congregation and will be placed back in the communal publications pot.

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You know, I've yet to meet a JW who can explain this

by Lady Zombie in

i know that has probably been covered ad infinitum on jwd.

so...... if jehovah is omnipotent, then there is nothing he can't do and nothing he doesn't know.. and, according to jws (as well as most other religions), god is love.

therefore he had to have known, even before creating all of creation, what would happen.

Lady Zombie

I can assure you that Lady Zombie hasn't read the Bible in full because a lot of her arguments are based off JWs or other religions, which, if she had read the Bible, she would know that more than a few of those teachings are off base.
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I have read the bible. Twice.

Again I wasn't trying to pick a fight with theists. Well, ok, maybe with the JWs a little but only because they claim they're the only ones to "have the truth" and are self-appointed experts.

If believing in god works for you, great. Doesn't work for me. It didn't in the past when I was a theist (hence the cognitive dissonance) and it sure doesn't work now.

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Society to start laminating paper backed publications

by Lady Zombie in

at the wednesday night ministry school meeting, a letter from the society was read announcing that wtbts paperbacked publications will begin to be laminated.

according to the letter, this "will save approximately 2 million dollars per year," "lengthen the life of the publications," and "increase the attractiveness" of the publications.. so there's that.. .

also, will someone please explain to me why 85% of the congregation started smiling and nodding at this.. i sometimes think that headquarters could send the congregations boxes of turds and the jws would act like it was the best thing ever..

Lady Zombie

At the Wednesday night Ministry School meeting, a letter from the society was read announcing that WTBTS paperbacked publications will begin to be laminated. According to the letter, this "will save approximately 2 million dollars per year," "lengthen the life of the publications," and "increase the attractiveness" of the publications.

So there's that.

Also, will someone please explain to me why 85% of the congregation started smiling and nodding at this.

I sometimes think that Headquarters could send the congregations boxes of turds and the JWs would act like it was the best thing ever.

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A knitted flying spaghetti monster

by loosie in

well i guess it is about time.

here is a link for the knitted pattern.. .

http://www.historyweaver.org/2008/06/flying-spaghetti-monster.html.

Lady Zombie

Beautiful!

Makes me wish I could knit.

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You know, I've yet to meet a JW who can explain this

by Lady Zombie in

i know that has probably been covered ad infinitum on jwd.

so...... if jehovah is omnipotent, then there is nothing he can't do and nothing he doesn't know.. and, according to jws (as well as most other religions), god is love.

therefore he had to have known, even before creating all of creation, what would happen.

Lady Zombie

To have an ability and choose never to use it, is effectively the same as having no ability at all.
Unless you believe I have the ability to conjure bratwursts from thin air, I just choose never to use it.

I'd like a bratwurst with spicy brown mustard please.

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You know, I've yet to meet a JW who can explain this

by Lady Zombie in

i know that has probably been covered ad infinitum on jwd.

so...... if jehovah is omnipotent, then there is nothing he can't do and nothing he doesn't know.. and, according to jws (as well as most other religions), god is love.

therefore he had to have known, even before creating all of creation, what would happen.

Lady Zombie

Sorry if that was a little scathing, but it's so frustrating when people ask all these questions and won't bother searching for the answers themselves. Since nobody is able to give them a "satisfactory" answer, they feel justified in their belief that God doesn't exist or that He isn't who the Bible says He is. Granted, the questions you ask have merit, but I think it has to do more with the spirit in which you ask them.

I ask these questions and debate them because theists and/or religious people ask/demand me to believe in something and exercise faith for a concept that just doesn't make any sense to me. Therefore, if I'm going to get on board and believe in a god, I feel that they should be able to convince me. And I spent a great deal of my life searching for the answers myself. Guess what conclusion I came to.

I don't go around picking fights with theists. I was one for a long time so I understand how they feel, however the cognitive dissonance that a belief in god was causing in me was a source of a lot of mental turmoil. Which incidently disappeared once I overcame my fear of the Eye In The Sky and accepted the evidence (or lack thereof) that he isn't real.

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High IQ turns academics into atheists

by darth frosty in

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just something else to throw onto the atheist v theist debate.. .

high iq turns academics into atheists .

12 june 2008. by rebecca attwood.

Lady Zombie

Oooo! I like this! (I'm an atheist)

IQ is a tricky subject. My Master's is in Psychology and IQ is a somewhat controversial subject in that field.

IQ tests are reliable for screening for mental retardation and the other extreme of genius, but if you try to pin down IQ points to actual intelligence, it gets kind of fuzzy.

For instance, if 100 is average (absolute middle of the bell curve), is someone who has an IQ of 105 "more intelligent?" What about 110, and so on? Are these people "smarter" or are they better at taking tests, or had a good education from K to 12? Maybe both? Sometimes other factors like health, stress, etc. play into test performance.

We Psych students were often used as testing guinea pigs and I took several IQ tests. On the days when I felt great, I scored pretty high. Once I had a bad head cold when I took the test and my score was considerably lower.

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The growing irrelevance of the Watchtower message

by drew sagan in

in many ways it appears as if the watchtower movement is slowing down.

a number of changes over the last few years certainly show that the watchtower is in a period of transition.

they have cut back on the number of magazines they print as well as lowered the cost of production by eliminating things like hard backed books.

Lady Zombie

I'm 38 so I'm technically under 40. I have always known about the 1975 issue because, to save face, many JW parents of people my age make it into a big joke on themselves. My parents do this.

My folks: Tee Hee! We planned when to have you so that you'd never have to go to school. Most of us felt that 1975 would be the end. Silly us! Well, it's our fault from running ahead of the organization.

I know of about a dozen other people I grew up with whose parents had done the same thing; planning their birth so that they would be pre-school aged children when 1975 came.

I also know of a few who went heavily into debt around this time (like late '73 to '74). They figured they would never have to repay the money. There were a lot of people driving new cars, indulging in luxuries, etc. Although the "materialism" was frowned upon, it was winked at because everyone believed Armie was on its way.

When it didn't come, there were a lot of janitors and window washers saddled with excessive debt that they couldn't repay.

I remember several people in my area left the bOrg over this.

Of course, true to WT doctrine, they were viciously labeled apostates and told it was their fault for running ahead of the organization and "overly anticipating" Jehovah.

Plausable deniability has always been established in the bOrg because while JWs are expected to obey the FDS, the JWs are also told that the GB are imperfect men and thus subject to imperfection and error.

Classic case of Orwellian Doublethink.

Those who didn't turn "apostate" and didn't leave the bOrg were however very bitter over the whole thing. I very much remember stern lectures from COs and DOs scolding the congregation for murmuring, allowing their zeal to cool, and "grieving the spirit."

On a depressing end-note, the 1975 disaster had been stomped out of the R&F active memory by 1980 and hardly anyone spoke about it anymore. If they did, they were very quickly reprimanded. To even mention 1975 usually led to a JC.

During my teenage years, my parents very reticent to even explain the whole thing to me.